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		<title>By: René Leonhardt</title>
		<link>http://ramblings.timgolden.me.uk/2012/07/02/python-33-is-on-the-way/#comment-1224</link>
		<author>René Leonhardt</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 09:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I am a freelance Python developer from Germany, Python 3.3 seems to be shaping up to be the best Python 3 release ever!

But with each project using Python 2 for new or old code bases I am wondering how many more years it will take until Python 3 will be finally ready to use or migrate to (even Django has no stable support yet):
http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2011/12/7/thoughts-on-python3/

Wouldn't it be better to postpone Python 3.3 to support i.e. Twisted with all developer power you can spare? Many Twisted users are already looking at modern alternatives like node.js.

JavaScript world domination with billions of installations is not easy to "fight", each Python 3 release should at least include an improved 2to3 (why still no GUI?), better Unicode support and one big library release with Python 3 support.

Are CPython core developers helping to improve pydev in Eclipse Juno?


My other big concern is mobile apps. 
When will more CPython core developers better support mobile OSes, at least Android?

Why not push Jython development to 3.3 in a few months and make a real micro standalone jar?
http://fwierzbicki.blogspot.de/2012/05/on-behalf-of-jython-development-team-im.html

Why no help to create a Python 3 tinypy?
http://www.tinypy.org/
(Python finally running inside the browser *cough*)

Why no diet for the fat SL4A layer?
https://code.google.com/p/python-for-android/

I sincerely hope at least the new postponed BlackBerry 10 (product features are looking great, but RIM is dying, thank you Apple) get a decent Python 3.4 support, not to mention other mobile OSes like WebOS.
At least Mozilla is using Python 2.7 - to debug Firefox OS ;-)
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gecko/Marionette_for_Interactive_Python


Python 3 support for Google App Engine?
https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=909


When will CPython developers start to support PyPy development seriously?
http://morepypy.blogspot.de/2012/06/py3k-status-update-4.html
http://morepypy.blogspot.de/2012/06/architecture-of-cppyy.html


I do not mean for the CPython developers to make all the work themselves but spend much more time to help or at least listen to the developers of the most important Python platforms and libraries.


May Python live long and prosper, my favorite programming language (besides JavaScript)
René</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I am a freelance Python developer from Germany, Python 3.3 seems to be shaping up to be the best Python 3 release ever!</p>
<p>But with each project using Python 2 for new or old code bases I am wondering how many more years it will take until Python 3 will be finally ready to use or migrate to (even Django has no stable support yet):<br />
<a href="http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2011/12/7/thoughts-on-python3/" rel="nofollow">http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2011/12/7/thoughts-on-python3/</a></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be better to postpone Python 3.3 to support i.e. Twisted with all developer power you can spare? Many Twisted users are already looking at modern alternatives like node.js.</p>
<p>JavaScript world domination with billions of installations is not easy to &#8220;fight&#8221;, each Python 3 release should at least include an improved 2to3 (why still no GUI?), better Unicode support and one big library release with Python 3 support.</p>
<p>Are CPython core developers helping to improve pydev in Eclipse Juno?</p>
<p>My other big concern is mobile apps.<br />
When will more CPython core developers better support mobile OSes, at least Android?</p>
<p>Why not push Jython development to 3.3 in a few months and make a real micro standalone jar?<br />
<a href="http://fwierzbicki.blogspot.de/2012/05/on-behalf-of-jython-development-team-im.html" rel="nofollow">http://fwierzbicki.blogspot.de/2012/05/on-behalf-of-jython-development-team-im.html</a></p>
<p>Why no help to create a Python 3 tinypy?<br />
<a href="http://www.tinypy.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinypy.org/</a><br />
(Python finally running inside the browser *cough*)</p>
<p>Why no diet for the fat SL4A layer?<br />
<a href="https://code.google.com/p/python-for-android/" rel="nofollow">https://code.google.com/p/python-for-android/</a></p>
<p>I sincerely hope at least the new postponed BlackBerry 10 (product features are looking great, but RIM is dying, thank you Apple) get a decent Python 3.4 support, not to mention other mobile OSes like WebOS.<br />
At least Mozilla is using Python 2.7 - to debug Firefox OS ;-)<br />
<a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gecko/Marionette_for_Interactive_Python" rel="nofollow">https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gecko/Marionette_for_Interactive_Python</a></p>
<p>Python 3 support for Google App Engine?<br />
<a href="https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=909" rel="nofollow">https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=909</a></p>
<p>When will CPython developers start to support PyPy development seriously?<br />
<a href="http://morepypy.blogspot.de/2012/06/py3k-status-update-4.html" rel="nofollow">http://morepypy.blogspot.de/2012/06/py3k-status-update-4.html</a><br />
<a href="http://morepypy.blogspot.de/2012/06/architecture-of-cppyy.html" rel="nofollow">http://morepypy.blogspot.de/2012/06/architecture-of-cppyy.html</a></p>
<p>I do not mean for the CPython developers to make all the work themselves but spend much more time to help or at least listen to the developers of the most important Python platforms and libraries.</p>
<p>May Python live long and prosper, my favorite programming language (besides JavaScript)<br />
René</p>
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